getting closest of all is one of those<
dynamics in the military that changes
very very often depending on the kind of
conflict and the countries that are
actually using it but to be< honest with
you guys CAS is changing, it's always changing, as
ever adapting due, to financial,
,constraints survivability different
platforms going out of service, the one
thing that I have noticed lately,
especially for smaller countries that
have a limited budget and the limited
constraint on you know manpower and
capabilities is they' been looking for
a close air support option that is not
only very, very effective, but also quite
cheap and very very maneuverable for
their forces whether it be
transportation of these things to a
different area of the world or just the
ability to get lots of them up in the
air very quickly, so today we are talking
about the future of light turboprop
attack aircraft but, it is coming into
the spotlight a little bit more now guys
and there's a number of key things that
is being brought into light, because
first of all though when you talk
about turboprops in the closest, what
role most people get very ,very upset,
thinking well of course we don't need
them they're too slow<font color="#E5E5E5"> easily engage blah</font>
blah blah<font color="#E5E5E5"> they say it's a throwback it's</font>
a logical<font color="#E5E5E5"> and they're normally the words</font>
that<font color="#CCCCCC"> are thrown to describe closest</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> port</font>
for turboprop<font color="#CCCCCC"> and light aircraft used</font>
for processbook
however these aircraft are lethal
compact<font color="#E5E5E5"> quite inexpensive and really</font>
easy<font color="#E5E5E5"> to support in the field guys why</font>
should they pick a light attack aircraft
well<font color="#E5E5E5"> light attack aircraft were pretty</font>
much<font color="#E5E5E5"> just that</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> their</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> small attack</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">aircraft like the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> a37</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> dragonfly or the</font>
Navy over<font color="#E5E5E5"> 10 with significant weapon</font>
loads but not designed<font color="#E5E5E5"> to stand up in</font>
front<font color="#CCCCCC"> of the apocalyptic soviet nato</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">battlefield forces meeting</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> air power</font>
demand with expensive<font color="#E5E5E5"> high-end aircraft</font>
was the<font color="#E5E5E5"> only option</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> the united states</font>
really<font color="#CCCCCC"> ever had and they were</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> just</font>
flying to death there was<font color="#E5E5E5"> just so many</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">sorties going out that these aircraft</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">that were being used</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> were not</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> really</font>
designed<font color="#E5E5E5"> to pull out these sorties like</font>
that all the<font color="#E5E5E5"> time</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the thing is they</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">are still</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> doing the same thing</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> right now</font>
but before<font color="#CCCCCC"> the</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> United States</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> could</font>
really determine what a light aircraft
could<font color="#E5E5E5"> be they really had to</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">in an Air Combat Command level</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> a lot of</font>
aviators wrote a<font color="#E5E5E5"> concept for the Oh a X</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">Oh a meaning observation attack and</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> X</font>
meaning<font color="#E5E5E5"> something that they didn't</font>
really have<font color="#CCCCCC"> a number four year</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> meaning</font>
it was experimental<font color="#CCCCCC"> they</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> started with</font>
the historical examples the aircraft
they used to fight<font color="#CCCCCC"> insurgencies in the</font>
jungle of Vietnam<font color="#CCCCCC"> the first example was</font>
the a1 Skyraider<font color="#CCCCCC"> a hulking behemoth of a</font>
plane with a massive<font color="#E5E5E5"> 18 cylinder radial</font>
engine designed as a carrier<font color="#CCCCCC"> aircraft</font>
and transferred<font color="#CCCCCC"> to</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the Air</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> Force in 1964</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">after the Navy</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> retired them alongside</font>
the ov-10<font color="#E5E5E5"> the ov-10 bronco a</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> new-build</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">twin turboprop observation aircraft uses</font>
a forward air controller by the<font color="#CCCCCC"> Air</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">Force and as an attack aircraft by the</font>
Navy Marines what the<font color="#CCCCCC"> authors envisioned</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">with the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> LAX was a modern turboprop</font>
aircraft with advanced<font color="#E5E5E5"> sensors and</font>
precision weapons<font color="#E5E5E5"> just like a modern</font>
fast jet<font color="#E5E5E5"> but they also wanted an</font>
aircraft<font color="#E5E5E5"> that could forward deployed</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">austere</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> airfields fueled from a</font>
55-gallon drum<font color="#CCCCCC"> cellar</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and supplied from</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">the back of a</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> pickup truck</font>
none of which a jet can do very<font color="#E5E5E5"> easily</font>
at all they also needed<font color="#CCCCCC"> to</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> be relatively</font>
cheap<font color="#CCCCCC"> to buy and operate</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> in short they</font>
envisioned an aircraft that<font color="#E5E5E5"> looked a lot</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">like the earlier designs with</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the</font>
weapons<font color="#E5E5E5"> and sensors</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> of a modern jet</font>
however these aircraft existed there is
the<font color="#E5E5E5"> a29</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> super tucano that is being in</font>
use in<font color="#CCCCCC"> colombia since 2007 Raytheon had</font>
a conversion<font color="#E5E5E5"> of their t6 trainer or</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> the</font>
86<font color="#E5E5E5"> they included a weapons capability</font>
what we were looking for<font color="#E5E5E5"> was the</font>
off-the-shelf<font color="#E5E5E5"> not needing a long</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">development period</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> type of aircraft for</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">conga operations in the</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> Middle East</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> this</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">seemed like</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> a pretty</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> good match the</font>
aircraft<font color="#CCCCCC"> had existed with two</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> seders</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">white</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> armored good day/night</font>
electro-optical sensors<font color="#E5E5E5"> guns and</font>
precision<font color="#E5E5E5"> munitions unrefueled they have</font>
twice<font color="#CCCCCC"> the loiter time of fast jets and</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">guys this is one of</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> the biggest biggest</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">things</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that cast must</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> provide on station</font>
support for as long as<font color="#CCCCCC"> possible</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">and trust me I know these aircraft that</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">we're looking at right now in terms</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> of</font>
flight capabilities they are very very
good<font color="#CCCCCC"> at fuel economy and very very</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> good</font>
at being<font color="#E5E5E5"> able to fly long distances</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> high</font>
altitudes and extreme speeds<font color="#CCCCCC"> without</font>
burning<font color="#E5E5E5"> gallons and gallons of fuel</font>
in 2009 these<font color="#E5E5E5"> aircraft could have flown</font>
from a dozen<font color="#E5E5E5"> us operate airfields in</font>
Afghanistan that could not<font color="#E5E5E5"> really</font>
support it fast<font color="#CCCCCC"> Jets but making the case</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">to an</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> Air Force that has already been</font>
able to<font color="#E5E5E5"> afford extremely high-end</font>
aircraft took<font color="#E5E5E5"> a lot</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> longer than expected</font>
for instance the Air National<font color="#E5E5E5"> Guard</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">tested the 86 from 2010 to 2014 and</font>
judged it quote operationally suitable
and operationally effective<font color="#E5E5E5"> unquote</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">ironically it wasn't the combat</font>
capabilities of the<font color="#CCCCCC"> aircraft that</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> made</font>
the strongest<font color="#E5E5E5"> case it was the health of</font>
the<font color="#E5E5E5"> rest of the fighter attack</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">enterprise</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> basically meaning guys if we</font>
can use these diddly little things to do
the jobs of what the old big guys are
doing<font color="#E5E5E5"> that are expensive to run then why</font>
wouldn't they a modern turboprop is a
<font color="#E5E5E5">computer-controlled marvel of</font>
engineering guys<font color="#E5E5E5"> I'm not even kidding</font>
you<font color="#CCCCCC"> these</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> aircraft are incredible</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">they're not just a little turbo plane</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">that has a little prop on the front they</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">are literally</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> like a jet fighter with a</font>
prop<font color="#E5E5E5"> and that's no word of a lie and it</font>
is one<font color="#CCCCCC"> of the most efficient aircraft</font>
power<font color="#E5E5E5"> plants for the performance regime</font>
that<font color="#CCCCCC"> it needed</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> for the United</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> States</font>
especially<font color="#E5E5E5"> to operate in it is extremely</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">easy to maintain and</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> very resistant to</font>
ingested debris<font color="#E5E5E5"> and that could be</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">expected at</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> Ford airfields now some</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> of</font>
the other sort of contenders I guess we
should say to replace some<font color="#CCCCCC"> of the you</font>
know<font color="#CCCCCC"> high-end fighters and such is just</font>
like the one you're<font color="#E5E5E5"> looking at right</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> now</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">this is the Textron AirLand scorpion</font>
it's<font color="#E5E5E5"> American chair and it's proposed</font>
for the<font color="#E5E5E5"> sale to perform that light</font>
attack<font color="#E5E5E5"> role also for intelligence</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">surveillance and reconnaissance</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">gathering however this is still quite an</font>
expensive<font color="#E5E5E5"> option</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> at 20 million dollars</font>
per unit<font color="#E5E5E5"> cost without support costs and</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">weapon systems installed that</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> aircraft</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">would be a good in the middle kind</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> of</font>
ground<font color="#E5E5E5"> aircraft for close air</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> support</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">not</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> October proper not fast air kind of</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">in between</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> cost is</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> always an issue when</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">it</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> comes</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to buying new equipment and</font>
these<font color="#E5E5E5"> aircraft would be no exception to</font>
that rule<font color="#E5E5E5"> however in terms of initial</font>
costing for these kind of<font color="#E5E5E5"> aircraft</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">you're looking at a substantial drop the</font>
United States Air<font color="#CCCCCC"> Force</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> has pretty much</font>
been looking for like I mentioned before
back in<font color="#CCCCCC"> the old days kind of requisition</font>
for the older turboprop engines<font color="#E5E5E5"> that</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">being said a</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> lot of the light jet world</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">said no way</font>
they<font color="#E5E5E5"> didn't care about</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> fuel demand they</font>
didn't care<font color="#E5E5E5"> about debri resistance cost</font>
and<font color="#E5E5E5"> maintenance quirements</font>
they can all get stuffed<font color="#E5E5E5"> jets renew</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">turboprops rolled but</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> no jet had the</font>
characteristics<font color="#E5E5E5"> they actually needed</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> in</font>
a<font color="#E5E5E5"> power plant for an aircraft</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> of</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> this</font>
role other resistance relied on the
<font color="#E5E5E5">panics notion that the air defense</font>
threat would easily<font color="#E5E5E5"> knock these things</font>
down<font color="#E5E5E5"> suddenly the widespread wish you a</font>
dead air defense weapons would actually
end the<font color="#E5E5E5"> usefulness</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> of light attack</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">aircraft</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> artillery is also exploding in</font>
terms of<font color="#CCCCCC"> technological advances and some</font>
people<font color="#E5E5E5"> even say the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> close air support</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">really</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> isn't not needed that much</font>
anymore<font color="#E5E5E5"> which I will always disagree</font>
with the funny thing<font color="#CCCCCC"> is though really</font>
good air defenses<font color="#CCCCCC"> are expensive</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and have</font>
to be sustained<font color="#E5E5E5"> and very few people</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">slash</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> nations can afford to buy these</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">high-tech</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> radar</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> guided threats</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> much less</font>
operate them effectively
<font color="#E5E5E5">there really are places and scenarios</font>
where<font color="#CCCCCC"> airpower is going</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to have a hard</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">time operating but most of those places</font>
are<font color="#E5E5E5"> really not affecting the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> u.s.</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">doctrine it's not reasonable</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to expect</font>
that there will<font color="#E5E5E5"> be a sudden surge of</font>
radar threats<font color="#E5E5E5"> in places where violent</font>
extremists<font color="#E5E5E5"> are the most firmly</font>
entrenched unless there<font color="#CCCCCC"> are Russian or</font>
Chinese units nearby<font color="#E5E5E5"> so you can really</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">be assured</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that the light attack</font>
aircraft<font color="#E5E5E5"> are not really intended for the</font>
radar threat environment<font color="#E5E5E5"> more sort of</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">the heat-seeking</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> varman nor</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> they intend</font>
if the environment dominated by hostile
fighter jets or fighter aircraft because
let's<font color="#E5E5E5"> be honest</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> guys</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> that be just</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> bloody</font>
stupid<font color="#CCCCCC"> sending aircraft like that in</font>
those areas<font color="#E5E5E5"> the last issue deserves the</font>
real attention<font color="#CCCCCC"> turboprop light aircraft</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">are intended for lightly contested</font>
airspace<font color="#E5E5E5"> with the primary threats are</font>
guns shoulder-launched heat-seeking
missiles commonly known as<font color="#CCCCCC"> manpads</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> this</font>
is the environment<font color="#CCCCCC"> that is</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> dominating</font>
the threat airspace<font color="#CCCCCC"> of Iraq Afghanistan</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">much of Syria Libya Yemen Somalia and</font>
almost all of<font color="#CCCCCC"> the entire African</font>
continent<font color="#E5E5E5"> in fact in the last 25 years</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> u.s. combat operations have involved</font>
176 days spent in contested airspace and
over nine thousand<font color="#CCCCCC"> four hundred calendar</font>
days outside<font color="#CCCCCC"> it</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">counting simultaneous operations</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> like</font>
the<font color="#E5E5E5"> no-fly zones as separate vents the</font>
total number of permissive days exceeds
<font color="#E5E5E5">17,000 flights</font>
that's the<font color="#E5E5E5"> environment of which the US</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">has really</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> been using up their highly</font>
capable legacy fighter attack<font color="#E5E5E5"> fleet and</font>
it's not going<font color="#CCCCCC"> away</font>
time soon it is highly<font color="#E5E5E5"> uneffective when</font>
it comes to cost<font color="#E5E5E5"> let's look at some</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">other things</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> really would allow for</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">benefits</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> for these aircraft</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> they're</font>
quiet<font color="#CCCCCC"> it may not</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> be obvious but most</font>
Gunners<font color="#CCCCCC"> in their regular warfare</font>
environment<font color="#E5E5E5"> have to hear a CNN craft to</font>
actually find it they have no early
warning system<font color="#CCCCCC"> to feed them information</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">the experience with</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the 86 and 829 on</font>
the training ranges<font color="#E5E5E5"> other they have</font>
quite<font color="#E5E5E5"> apt to be hard to hear by the time</font>
you<font color="#E5E5E5"> hear them you're in range of their</font>
weapon systems<font color="#CCCCCC"> anyway</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> they are cool</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">heat-seeking missiles rely on the</font>
signatures from exhaust or hot metal<font color="#E5E5E5"> or</font>
caused by<font color="#CCCCCC"> friction with the air they fly</font>
through<font color="#E5E5E5"> the exhaust of the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> 829 turboprop</font>
for instance which is<font color="#E5E5E5"> the exact same</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> as</font>
the 86<font color="#CCCCCC"> C is mixed with strong</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> propwash</font>
which isn't even<font color="#E5E5E5"> hot enough to boil</font>
water by the time it reaches<font color="#E5E5E5"> the</font>
trailing<font color="#E5E5E5"> edge of the wing</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> the</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> fastest</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">moving part in the aircraft is the prop</font>
which has to have a special<font color="#CCCCCC"> could've</font>
built in to<font color="#E5E5E5"> prevent ice from forming</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> the</font>
exact opposite of a heating problem<font color="#E5E5E5"> add</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">into the ability of detecting missiles</font>
and dispensing flares<font color="#E5E5E5"> any aircraft would</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">be less</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> susceptible to heat-seeking</font>
threats than any other fighter<font color="#E5E5E5"> or attack</font>
aircraft<font color="#E5E5E5"> in the infantry</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> they are small</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">worst-case the 86 has less than</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> half the</font>
exposed area<font color="#E5E5E5"> of an a-10</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> when looking</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">straight up at it best-case looking at</font>
it<font color="#CCCCCC"> nose on</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> it prevents an even smaller</font>
target the a 29 is only<font color="#E5E5E5"> a little bit</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">larger than</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> the 86</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and it can still</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> be</font>
said that<font color="#E5E5E5"> it's hard</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to keep sight of</font>
your<font color="#E5E5E5"> own wingman at distances where the</font>
large<font color="#CCCCCC"> Jets maintain visual formation</font>
small size makes<font color="#E5E5E5"> an aircraft much harder</font>
to hit with gunfire
<font color="#CCCCCC">particularly with the obsolete aimed by</font>
IX so the<font color="#E5E5E5"> anti-aircraft guns fielded</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> by</font>
most insurgent groups worldwide
so overall guys let's be honest<font color="#CCCCCC"> close</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">air support in</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> terms of a light roll</font>
attack aircraft make complete sense if
<font color="#E5E5E5">we can use these things for the task</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">that's on the bigger more expensive</font>
fighter aircraft have been<font color="#E5E5E5"> trying to</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">fulfill it's a</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> no brainer guys it really</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">is and that's why the US Air Force</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">the US military</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> is experimenting so much</font>
<font color="#E5E5E5">with these aircraft and looking for</font>
potential new<font color="#CCCCCC"> options for</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> close air</font>
support and<font color="#E5E5E5"> these roll</font>
BBE<font color="#E5E5E5"> 86</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> you know the super tucano willow</font>
sort<font color="#E5E5E5"> of aircraft or even maybe the</font>
<font color="#CCCCCC">Textron scorpion</font>
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