Waching daily Apr 2 2018

Hi and welcome to a new video. Today I have a special guest with me. Zenchilli

Hi my friends, Hi Roman

He's at my place today because we wanted to delid his 4770K for his retro gaming PC

If you want to see what we did just check out his channel and watch the video which we did together

That's correct. So what are we doing today?

Yes I thought we would do something unusual today which is what you are used to on my channel

So basically I wanted to show him how good the protection works inside current hardware

So for example what will happen if we simply remove the cooler of an 8700K while the system is running

Or what happens if we just start up a system without cooler. How long can it run and what will happen?

Personally I have a lot of trust in nowadays hardware protection

we deliberately didn't test before what will happen

I told him that I'm quite sure that nothing will go wrong

Following the motto - no risk, no fun

Exactly and if something goes wrong it will at least be funny

Hardware base is a ASUS MAXIMUS X HERO with a delidded i7-8700k

it shouldn't really matter that the CPU has been delidded. It should just improve the thermal conductivity and therefore lower the delta between cores and IHS

So the result would be that the IHS is warmer than using the stock TIM

RAM is a G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Kit and we also have a capture card on here

Exactly and as you can see the cooler has not been mounted. It's just sitting on the CPU without thermal paste.

And if you touch it you can also feel that the CPU cooler is quite warm already

Yes it feels quite warm indeed but we have also been sitting here already for almost 10 minutes

So before we start please open CPU-Z

Yes so we can show that we're really using an 8700K

CPU is running stock

So you can see the 8700K is running at 4.7 GHz

You can right click into CPU-Z and show that all cores are running at the same speed

So I'd say just go ahead and remove the CPU cooler

Yes just remove it

nice and warm so you can warm your hands during winter :D

So we can now see how the temperature is increasing

But as you can see it's not like the CPU straight blows up if you remove the CPU cooler and leave it running

So the CPU should now start to clock down once it reaches temperatures above 100°C

Just to interrupt you - the CPU is already clocking down. It already went to 4400 MHz

We can also check what the individual cores are doing and we can see they are throtteling

so hardware protection is kicking in

Yes but it's still running

Even though 100°C is quite warm already

I will try to find a thermometer so we can measure the temperature of the heatspreader

So I found a thermometer and the CPU is still running. Now for over a minute already

Just hold the thermometer while I try to measure the center of the heatspreader

What are the temperatures?

93.6 °C

Yes and increasing

I'd say that's really quite warm already

but as you can see the system is still running even after over 2 minutes without CPU cooler

of course it's during idle in windows but the CPU is currently clocking at about 2.4 GHz on all cores

I'm actually quite surprised because I expected the system to shut down after about 30s

I thought it would shut down even earlier

the voltage is also quite low now with about 0.8 Volt

At least I wouldn't put my finger on there now :D I guess it would be a bit too warm

as you can see it now dropped to 2.2 GHz, 1.8 GHz, 1.5 GHz

I think it's hitting the limit now

yes and these are the clocks you want to see if you are using a 8700k

So I think for the future we don't even need CPU coolers anymore. We just put the CPU into the socket without cooler

Yes I think especially with your logo on the CPU it looks much nicer without cooler

I think it's not going above 100 °C

Yes I think it levelled off now so we won't see any more drastic changes

Yes it also started to clock back up within the last few moments so it hit the break-even-point

As you can see it just clocks down, temperature dropps a little and then it clocks back up

but we're not able to reach over 100°C

But it also shows how good the delid is if you simply check the delta between the core temperature and the heatspreader

so from what I can see there will be no changes anymore from this point

So what happens if we just run Cinebench?

I just asked myself the same question. So I'd say you just start cinebench now

I will keep track of the temperature

yes it clocked down to 800 MHz and is extremely fast :D

but for some reason it's running

I have to say I'm quite surprised

This is really not what I expected

CPU is now running at 800 MHz and 0.6 Volt which is also the minimum multiplier the CPU can run

So the CPU can't go lower than this

Voltage is also at the lowest possible level with about 0.6 - 0.7 Volt

It would just shut down if the voltage was even lower

But this also means we don't have to wait much longer because it simply won't shut down now

I also think so. I expected it to shut down once cinebench was running because the power consumption would increase

And because the voltages and clocks are already low it wouldn't be possible to save more power

But as we can see it's not shutting down

We definitely won't break an OC record like this

But maybe the lowest score ever in cinebench

I have the feeling that we will reach about 50 points in cinebench

it's for sure below the lowest i3 which is listed here in cinebench

which is ranked with 214 points

This will take years so we will just jup forward for you guys

Of course we will be back if anything exciting happens

Wow! Well we have crazy 125 points in cinebench

I would suggest to also do the single threaded test but from my experience this will take ages so I guess we will just skip that

we also wanted to go and grab some pizza after this so I didn't really want to wait this long

This is actually really impressive and I don't even know what to say

I expected everything else but not this

I knew it would run quite long without cooler but not this long. I often just go to bios without cooler because I'm too lazy

And just to dial in some settings it's usually fine and in bios you can always keep track of the temperature and shut down if it's getting too hot

So as long as I see it's about 60 or 70 °C I just dial in the settings and shut down the system once I'm done with it.

But there we're talking about 30s in BIOS without load and not 10 minutes of cinebench

The funny part is that cinebench is done and it now clocks back up because the CPU has more headroom

Yes we are already back at 1 GHz now

And the heatspreader temperature is still sitting at 96°C now

The question is if this is also related to delidding because we have a much smaller delta to IHS and therefore the core can become much hotter than normal

It probably won't work as good if the CPU wasn't delidded

You don't have a stock CPU here, do you?

Unfortunately not

well okay, I'm not surprised

So this was really interesting for both of us. We both didn't expect that it could run this long without heatsink

Yes I expected maybe 20s followed by a shutdown

But doesn't seem to be the case

I don't even know what we could do now to force the CPU to shut down

Overclocking?

The thing is even if we would overclock this system it would still just lower clocks and voltages so we would end up at the same result

So overclocking wouldn't make much sense in this case

Well I'd say we're done with this topic. It was really exciting and at the same time also very surprising to see that nothing really happened

I wouldn't recommend to repeat what we did here but I think if I will test my next rig quickly I will just not mount a heatsink

Yes you can be lazy and don't have to worry mounting such a CPU cooler

Make sure you check out the channel of Zenchilli. You can find the link in the description.

Enjoy the rest of your day - see you soon!

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Łukasz: Hey! In today's episode 3 ways to style we're gonna show you how to create a cool look for a dinner date.

As always, you're gonna see 3 stylizations, prepared by me, Ellie, who you already know, and our special guest – personal shopper Gabi Kugla.

Ellie, how about you start?

Ellie: Ok, then look at what I've prepared!

Łukasz: Gabi, what do you think?

Gabi: I think that this look is awesome,

very feminine, mixing this shirt with trousers is very elegant.

For a dinner date – perfect, I think it would leave a guy speachless.

Ellie: I'm very surprised by your opinion, cause I opted for a very classic look which is not very daring,

The silhouette is built-up,

I'm really surprised with what you said.

Łukasz: I really like the classic approach in this look

the choice of colours, very toned despite the brave red.

The only thing I have doubts about, but just a little bit, is the trousers cause of its stitching.

Ellie: But stitching is a detail, which is very trendy now. Have you seen the latest fashion shows?

Łukasz: Of course I did, but…

Gabi: I think that they have its charm, the stiching.

Łukasz: Ok, it's just me. The look altogether is really really nice.

Ellie: Well, than I'm very glad.

That was my point, to show not so obvious way to dress for a dinner date, it doesn't always have to be a dress.

I wanted to show more classical version for women

which are not so comfortable with showing off their body,

but still get a very elegant and sexy look.

Łukasz: What I really like about this look is that you can wear it even as a casual outfit,

it's a great option for a working woman who goes to the office

and than straight after work has a dinner date.

And she's gonna look amazing in both places.

Ellie: That was my intention

Ellie: Gabi, maybe you're gonna tell us now something about your look?

Gabi: Sure, I can say a few words.

My stylization is very feminine, very sexy,

a wanted to bring out model's long legs, thin arms, nice cleavage.

I wouldn't look good in this stylization, well, not in the dress for sure,

I woudn't feel good cause it's not created for my shape.

Łukasz: Well, for me this is the look more for a party than dinner date.

Gabi: I think this is very individual,

cause you can change this look a bit by accesories.

I added the coat that gives it the femininity,

but it it's a dinner with friends you can change the coat for, let's say, leather jacket.

Łukasz: That's how I would see this look. Ellie, what do you think?

Ellie: I think it's cool that we're saying this is not the look for everyone

it's dedicated for a certain type of figure,

additionaly, bringing out long legs by using beige high heels,

gorgeus jewellery I mean the earings that lenghten the neck.

I would say a very good choice.

Gabi: Thank you

Gabi: Ellie, what do you think about Łukasz's stylization?

Ellie: I'm totally in love with this suit.

Gabi: I have to admin, me too.

Ellie: It's fantastic, I love the feminine vibe

with belt in the waist, it's very sexy.

The only thing that bothers me a bit is the red coat,

which doesn't exactly work with the other colorus,

but I know what you wanted to show, your favourte trend

mixing pink with red.

Łukasz: Oh, someone has seen my live video, bravo!

Ellie: I'm fan nr 1.

To sum up, thumps up for this look.

Gabi: I'd also like say something.

As I said before, I'm in love with this suit and I'd love to have it in my closet.

I have to agree about the coat,

but the thing that bothers me more are the velvet shoes,

cause I don't think the fabric works with the flowers.

It's a bit to sweet for me, I'd choose beige.

But I can see that the stylization is very bold, and it can be seen that this is very your style.

Łukasz: What I meant here was that I wanted to show more urban city look,

let's not kid ourselves, it's not for everyone.

Not everyone would wear it, and I can agree on this.

But I think there would be quite a few women who would wear that.

Gabi: I think it's very jaw-dropping, for me it's a definite plus.

Althought it's not really my style, I think it's really amazing.

Ellie: Bold, colorful and makes me think of spring!

Łukasz: Unfortunately, that's all for today. I'd like to thank Gabi for participation

Gabi: You're welcome. Thank you for lovely company and I hope to see you guys again.

Let us know how do you like our looks.

Ellie: And what's your favourite thing to wear during dates

Łukasz: And which look is your favourite!

All: See you, bye!