so I continue in English
My name is Tony, I've been tattooing for 15 years. I'm from England
originally. I started tattooing in 2002. I had a very old-fashioned apprenticeship
from a very good tattooer in my local hometown. After about seven years of
working with him I went off and traveled through Asia through Australia around
Europe. I lived in Berlin for five years where I met a French guy : we got married
and had a baby and that's why I moved to Bordeaux. I've been here now for two
years and this is my first studio.
My job is amazing, inspiring, allows me to travel all over the world.
My job is fun, individual, different every day. I get to meet some amazing people.
I'm allowed to look how I want and dress how I want. I never do the same thing
twice. There's not really bad things actually ! My job is difficult on my back
I'm the boss so I used to have to work Sundays, now I will still work Saturdays
or the occasional Sunday or late night but I fit that around I have a
three-year-old son so I am now working his school times and... more more playing
less work ! If I'm not comfortable with the tattoo design or the person I will
not tattoo so. I choose what I want to do in my job.
My job is amazing because I get to work with my husband. He's a musician !
I think of any other bad things it's a pretty awesome job !
That was hard when I first started tattooing yeah I mean I was 17.
He treated me pretty bad it wasn't easy, I was making the tea and
cleaning the floor. They used to call me, it was very sexist, lonely
not paid at all for two years : it was hard but you know I paid my dues and
that's why I really feel strongly about the job now and I know how to do it
inside and out
So I started working in a tattoo studio when I was only 17 years old before that
I had been studying to be an art teacher and it just didn't seem like the right
career for me so luckily I got into a local studio that was very good in
England. I started off piercing for two years
cleaning the floor, cleaning the toilet, basically anything and everything
I could do just to get the chance to start to have a tattoo machine in my hand.
It was really slow really hard work, starting in the right at the bottom and working
way up to the top but I'm very thankful of the apprenticeship, sort of
old-fashioned apprenticeship, training that I had to get into it. I would say
you know now with the internet how easy it is to buy machines and whatever. It is
easier in some ways to get into it but to do it properly to learn properly from
someone it's a lot harder. I would recommend if you want to start doing it
is to draw : keep drawing, don't tattoo from home it's not a good
way into it, you need to know hygienicly what you're doing before you start
tattooing people. Take your portfolio of drawings around to tattoo
studios in the area, ask them not for a job but ask them for advice and listen
to them. Act on it like improve your drawing, bring it back to them a year
later show them that you've improved that you still want to do it, if you
really want to do it you will get into it. There are schools you can learn in
in schools especially in like Thailand and that you know that's something again
I wouldn't recommend : it's not like a factory line and by the end of it you're
just kind of sort of shunted out the door with with a certificate that
doesn't actually mean anything.
I started tattooing on people, I was lucky I never tattooed my own legs, not
to learn anyway, my boss like I said he'd been tattooing since the 60s and there
was lots of older people around his clients that were happy to let me then
learn I would just go over his old lines that he'd done 30 years ago and because
his clients were also then in their 50s or 60s they would be alcoholics or
they'd be diabetic or you know bleeding a lot more a lot harder to tattoo : so if you
can tattoo people like that then you can tattoo 18 year old skin no problem.
I would regard myself as a custom artist therefore I would always tattoo
something as a one-off you know I don't use Google Images or I would never ever
copy someone's tattoo for example. So the first thing would be to meet the client
in person preferably and we do a consultation for free and we talk about
exactly what they want the placement the budget and everything else to do that.
Exactly yeah and then from there if they're confident then we make we set a
rendez-vous and normally the day before I will draw up the tattoo. - "Just the day
before ?" - Yeah yeah for me it's better I Yeah I mean that's why I
really insist on the consultation before so generally like people will come to me
because they know my style or they've seen my work and they've chosen
me to do it so we're kind of halfway there already and yeah in the
consultation we'll talk about everything like budget and the exact
style and what I can do and get away with and and then yeah normally I'll
only draw it the day before or the morning because I want it to be fresh in
my mind I normally have about a month waiting list at the moment so if I draw
it up a few weeks before, when customer gets to see it and then
everybody you know their mom their sister their best friend or there's so
many then changes that gets made and also I lose the fire for it you know I
want it to be fresh in my mind and they're like right okay
exactly yeah I mean again when I... now generally book people is...
I work on bigger pieces and I'll book one person a day so that when they come in
they'll see the design and if there's any minor changes then it can easily be
made I'm not gonna force them to get
something done they're not happy with it. And if they say... Yeah exactly sit down go !
You know and if there's if there's something very very wrong with the
design or they've changed their mind then we have to look at doing another
rendezvous but nine times out of 10 or more it just it never happened so yeah
From that if the design is good to go then we'll make a transfer which I'm
gonna show you how to do in a bit. That gets put onto the skin and then after
drying we then just start the tattoo process : everything could be set up
sterile ready to go, depending on the size of the tattoo and how well the
customer can sit it can take anything from half an hour to six seven hours
yeah or more for you know like ongoing things but that's done in sessions.
We have like a minimum charge which is 70 euros here : we're not one of the cheaper
studios but we're not one of the most expensive as well we have to have a
minimum charge though even if the tattoo is very small because all the equipment
is single-use and sterile so even if it takes you know the tattoo takes five
minutes we do have to pay for that minimum charge so... I'll work on bigger
pieces for like a daily rate or an hourly rate which is 150 an hour here.
You know how my work earning like per week or per month it's really hard
to say for example if you have someone canceled or a few people just not show
up for their appointment even if they've left the deposit the account that's
nothing when the tattoo should have been 500 and you're left with a 50 euros
thing so. "And about that, what are your charges ?" My rent here on
"cours de l'Yser" is 700 a month which is pretty good I think considering we're so
close to "Marché des capucins" equipment-wise
I'll be ordering needles and inks and everything else that goes along with
that. I'll spend maybe 600 every one to two months on what I'm buying in
again my minimum charge will cover that there needles and everything I use is of
good quality as well : there's a lot cheaper I can do, I know I can do much
better work with the right equipment so I'll spend a bit more on that
unfortunately that's why my price might be a little bit higher than some
people. ... I think that's
really important. I have a professional company to come round and
take away any materiel that's touch blood or anything.
Pretty much it yep !
Tattoing makes you travel a lot ? I mean you don't have to
but for me it was always something I wanted to do anyway and
therefore it enabled me to get get the other side of the world when I first
left England I had a job set up in Sydney Australia. Although I didn't end
up going there I went to Melbourne instead and you know it changes but
again you know the popularity of it there's so many Studios now and if
you've got a good strong portfolio then yeah you should be able to get
decent work anywhere. "You can go to different places?" Yeah guess
what you call it yeah yeah for example I'll take on like guest artists here
friends that I've met along the way now I can give them a place when they get
once gave me a spot wherever that was in the world. The first studio I worked in
in Australia was a place of ten other artists and it was the first time the
receptionist asked me was... what's your style what do you want to do
and I've never been asked that before the way I've been taught was to do
everything you know whatever comes in the door you have to do it well but
it was the first time that I became aware that I can specialise in something
and yeah in Australia it became more photorealism like portraits which is
funny because then when I went to Berlin with that portfolio
Nobody wanted realistic work there yeah "I don't want Elvis in my arm!" yeah yeah
so yeah from there it went to more like neo trad which is that I love this style
neo-traditional. "How are the relationships between different tattoo artists in the
same city or... there is competition ?" yeah I think there's always a bit of
healthy competition that's not a bad thing though it keeps you on your toes
you'd say and makes you want to improve when I first came to Bordeaux because
obviously I wasn't I didn't do any apprenticeship here or you know I was
just coming to open a studio which can be seen as a negative thing I actually
wrote a lot of the better studios and they said hello and introduced
myself and you know I'm coming with my husband who is Bordelais
there's a reason that we're coming here and we want to open a studio which was
you know not close to any other studios which is also important, my style is
quite different, most artists works here are very
graphic in Bordeaux black work I do more colourful neo-traditional sort of things
yeah if you were back and it was relatively friendly they've come to see
me I've been to see them for a tattoo sometimes. I'm quite an open friendly
person I just don't speak French but but no it's it's not been about there's been
a couple that have had a bit of a problem with me but uh... "Last question
are you sometimes afraid to fail the tattoo or do a mistake or ?" Yeah fail
loosely is a different thing I mean as an artist I think I'm never a hundred
percent happy like I I am happy with what I'll finished by the
time I've done it but I'll then look back at the photos or you know it's not
like a painting on a canvas that you can go away a few days and come back to
it's done. He walks at the door and chances of you seeing them
again is is small however yeah that being said mistakes wise no I mean when
I when I first started of course you know I'm very nervous in that but now
it's a long time now so it's a confidence thing yeah "tranquille relax !"
"That's a good new for the two people waiting..." Yeah !
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